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Lycos startet am 1.12 ne geile Kampagne...Lycos stellt ned Bildschirmschoner vor der gegen die Server der Spammer vorgeht.
Waere doch cool wenn ma da alle mitmachen
Erstmals sollen sich Internet-Nutzer gegen unerwünschte Mails (Spam) selbst zur Wehr setzen können. Der Internetportal-Betreiber Lycos Europe hat dafür am Donnerstag in Hamburg eine neue europaweite Kampagne angekündigt. Mit Hilfe eines Bildschirmschoners sollen genervte Internet-Nutzer künftig kollektiv "zurückschlagen" können. Über ihn sollen massenweise gezielt Anfragen an ausgewählte Spam-Versender geschickt werden, die die Server der Verursacher in die Knie zwingen sollen. Im Grunde also nichts anderes als eine kollektive DoS-Attacke.
Lycos Europe will im Zuge der Kampagne "Make Love not Spam" den Bildschirmschoner vom 1. Dezember an in acht Ländern auf ihren Internet-Sites zum Herunterladen bereitstellen. Sobald der eigene Rechner zu Hause nicht benutzt wird, startet der Bildschirmschoner automatisch Seitenabrufe an bekannte Spam-Websites. Die so genannten Requests werden über Lycos-Server umgeleitet, damit die Nutzer anonym bleiben. Je mehr Leute das kleine Programm nutzen, desto größer wird das Datenaufkommen auf den ausgewählten Spam-Seiten. Dadurch sollen die Spam-Server nicht nur langsamer werden, sondern den Betreibern durch das hohe Datenaufkommen auch hohe Kosten entstehen.
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hmmm un das is net illegal?
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nice one!

und wenn spam nicht illegal ist, dann ist das auch nicht illegal, denn es ist ja sozusagen auch spam :P

und falls es illegal ist, wird halt trotzdem gleiches mit gleichem bekämpft :ugly:
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lässt an SETI Home erinnern :thumb2:
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legal illegal scheissegal..bist ja über lycos biste ja anonym
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hm dl überlastet...hat den schon einer und kann den aufn ftp laden ?
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In meinen Ordner! :thumb2:
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GMJ hat geschrieben:Bild

lässt an SETI Home erinnern :thumb2:
seti is mir auch als erstes eingefallen als ich´s gesehen hab ;D
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Lycos-Anti-Spam: Stay tuned [Update]

Zurzeit hat Lycos Europe seinen umstrittenen Bildschirmschoner "Make love not spam" abgeschaltet. Mit Hilfe dieses Tools konnten Lycos-Nutzer seit Ende November eine Gegenattacke gegen bekannte Spamversender führen, die bei Spamcop entsprechend gelistet waren. "Stay tuned" heißt es nun lakonisch, wenn man die Lycos-Anti-Spam-Website aufruft.

Die Statistiker von Netcraft haben ermittelt, dass zwei einschlägige chinesische Websites (bokwhdok.com und printmediaprofits.biz) durch die Lycos-Aktion lahm gelegt wurden. Ziel des Anti-Spams-Projekts sollte es allerdings nur sein, bei den anvisierten Servern zusätzliche Kosten durch den verstärkten Traffic zu erzeugen. Die Lycos-Aktion, die als Nebeneffekt immerhin 33 Terabyte unnützen IP-Traffic im Internet erzeugt, ist rechtlich umstritten, der Aufruf zur "Selbstjustiz" zumindest fragwürdig.

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Ein Lycos-Sprecher betont hingegen, die Aktion habe keine Spam-Server lahm gelegt. Die Veröffentlichung von Netcraft entspreche nicht den Tatsachen, da die gemessenen Server zum Messzeitpunkt bereits seit einem Monat nicht Bestandteil der Aktion gewesen seien. Von allen 110.000 aktiven Benutzern seien seit dem 20. Oktober 160 Gigabyte Traffic erzeugt worden, teilt der Lycos-Sprecher mit. (ae/c't)
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Lycos Europe Pauses Anti-spam Efforts
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By Kevin Newcomb | December 3, 2004

Lycos Europe's controversial anti-spam efforts had a bumpy first week, with various availability problems, some of which may have been caused by the same spammers the site targeted with distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks.

The company earlier this week launched a campaign that offered users screen saver software, "Make Love, Not Spam," to fight back at spammers. The distributed computing application activates when the user's machine is not being used, continuously generating traffic on the sites of alleged spammers, slowing them down and making them more difficult to operate.

The effort has been widely criticized for crossing the line from combating an illegal activity -- spam -- to supporting and even enabling a different one -- DDoS attacks.

The site has been periodically unavailable for much of the week. Presently, the site has been replaced with a placeholder graphic that simply says, "stay tuned." Links from the Lycos Europe home page have also been taken down. Lycos attributes the problems to overwhelming demand from users wanting to download the application.

Net monitoring site Netcraft reports that some major Internet backbones, including Global Crossing, are preventing access to the site, which would make the site inaccessible in certain areas.

According to security company F-Secure, the cause may be at least partly attributable to redirected traffic from Lycos' own DDoS attacks. At least one of the alleged spammers' sites that were targeted redirected all its traffic back to the "Make Love Not Spam" site, according to F-Secure.

F-Secure also reported that the site has been the victim of defacements. F-Secure received reports from several users that the www.makelovenotspam.com site had been altered to read "Yes, attacking spammers is wrong, you know this, you shouldn't be doing it. Your ip address and request have been logged and will be reported to your ISP for further action." The title of the page was changed to read "using bots to attack people is just wrong."

Lycos and its hosting company deny that the site was defaced, so F-Secure's research team says the defacement could be the result of certain ISPs blocking users access to the site, or a "DNS poisoning" attack, where a malicious attacker floods a domain name server with DNS requests and fake responses to them, ultimately causing users behind a specific DNS server to access the wrong site.

If the site was indeed hacked and defaced, that could raise security concerns, according to Netcraft. "An intrusion by hackers would be a serious concern for an operation that controls an army of computers with DDoS capabilities. The site has been unreachable today, which could be related to traffic from Slashdot rather than a counterattack," according to Netcraft's site.

While the company designed the software to stop its attack before a site was brought completely down, that apparently hasn't happened in some cases, since some of the targeted sites have reportedly been fully knocked out of commission.

"Monitoring of three of the targets housed on Chinese servers shows that two of the sites, bokwhdok.com and printmediaprofits.biz, have been knocked offline by the attack. A third target, rxmedherbals.info, has remained largely available, with intermittent outages," according to Netcraft.
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Lycos, Spammers Trade Blows

"Make love not spam" screensaver continues to stir up controversy.

Paul Roberts, IDG News Service
Friday, December 03, 2004

Lycos Europe is caught in a struggle with spammers, just days after releasing a free screensaver software program that uses computer down time to swamp Web sites associated with spam campaigns.

At least one Web site targeted by Lycos's "Make love not spam" screensaver program, Moretgage.info, has changed its Web page, forwarding requests it receives to Makelovenotespam.com, a Web domain that distributes the screensaver program, according to F-Secure.

The escalating war with spammers comes amid mounting criticism of the screen saver from antispam experts and a crackdown by ISPs on the program.

Spamming the Spammers

Lycos launched the "Make Love, Not Spam" screensaver Wednesday, but was circulating a beta version of the software before that. The screensaver promises to "spam the spammers" by sending a steady stream of requests to a list of Web sites that have been used in spam campaigns, slowing those sites. The list of sites to attack is downloaded by the screensaver program from a control server operated by Lycos.

Charges quickly surfaced that Lycos was crossing the line by launching a DDOS (distributed denial of service) attack, which is illegal in the U.S. and most European countries. The antispam campaign also prompted quick retaliation from unknown parties, including a reported hack of the makelovenotspam.com Web site.

Lycos denied that its Web site was hacked and stated that makelovenotspam does not launch denial of service attacks, because the company is careful to avoid completely shutting down the sites it targets. The company did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

The Moretgage.info Web page was changed to contain an HTML Meta Refresh tag that forwards all requests to view the page to Makelovenotespam.com, effectively using the screensaver to launch attacks on Lycos's Web site, F-Secure says. Requests for moretgage.info were still being forwarded to Makelovenotspam.com Thursday morning, Eastern Standard Time.

Traffic Blocked

More troubling for Lycos, some ISPs are blocking traffic to the server that controls the makelovenotspam screensavers, according to Johannes Ullrich, chief technology officer at The SANS Institute's Internet Storm Center.

ISPs are treating Lycos's network of machines running the makelovenotspam screensaver in the same way they treat "botnets" of compromised systems that are controlled by malicious hackers or organized online criminal groups and often used to distribute spam or launch DOS attacks, he says.

"The [makelovenotspam] application isn't really all that well thought out. In a way, it's doing a DDOS attack, and DDOS attacks are always a bad thing, because there are always innocent bystanders who get hit as well," he says.

"I would have to characterize it as an astonishingly stupid idea," says John Levine of the Internet Research Task Force's Antispam Research Group.

Legal questions aside, the "spam the spammers" approach won't work, because those behind spam campaigns can quickly take down and move Web sites referred to in spam e-mail. The makelovenotspam program also consumes bandwidth and resources from the networks and ISPs that serve machines running the software, not just from spammer networks, he says.

"This program steals bandwidth from a lot of people who had no intention of playing junior DDOS cop," Levine says.

Ullrich and others consider the "Make Love not Spam" campaign a publicity stunt, more than a well-planned antispam campaign, but say that it was poorly thought out.

"This is like a lame idea that a college kid would think of, not something a serious company would do," Levine says.

Resistance from ISPs may bring a quick end to the "Make Love Not Spam" campaign, he says.

"My guess is that they won't be able to sustain this very long, once legitimate networks have figured out who is controlling [the machines running the screensaver] and start blocking access to that host," he says.
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